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Deed 220 56 143990 of outlined arrangements for the substitution of new 'lives' in the same mortgage, and was witnessed by William North of Clonfad, attorney in the Court of Exchequer in Ireland (Roger's brother) (CN email ) 4a Ulysses North of Newcastle or Ulysses Browne North (deed 370 of 1775 (EN email ; CN email )), d 1780, High Sheriff of Westmeath (Co N), m Eliza Bagot (16.4.2) (SP email ) and had issue.

The education of the orphan was, however, tenderly conducted by his mothers brother, the Rev Mr Gouldsbury, a wealthy and exemplary clergyman who died during the present year at an advanced age' (The Gentlemans Magazine, Jul to Dec 1831, Vol Cl, 24, part 2nd, by Sylvanus Urban, Gent, London (Google Books)).

Deed 1819 756 indicates that the Rev Mr Gouldsbury was the Rev John Henry Gouldsbury.

Deed 576 is a marriage settlement dated : John Lloyd Armstrong of Dublin, Catherine North of Dublin, Lucinda North, widow, mother of Catherine, Rev Henry Gouldsbury of Boyle, Co Roscommon, Rev Thomas Lloyd of Boyle - marriage between John Lloyd Armstrong & Catherine North, 1,000 part of the lands at Miltown (EN email ). In 1823 John Henry made a speech to the Jury in the case of Graham and Handwich: 'Whatout a bold and upright press there is no public opinion.

This looks like Catherine was a daughter of Lucinda Gouldsbury who married Richard North and became a widow on his early death. The public itself is a heavy, inert, senseless mass, fit only to sustain the weight of power, and to bear the haughty foot that treads and tramples on it, this is the divine celestial spirit that informs it all, in every artery and pore with new vitality' (J Joly Pamphlets National Library of Ireland Rare Book Collections 1125 1140 Irish Trials).

Charles had issue, including Ulysses North Bagot, b 1822 ( who, when of 12 Charlemont Place on , married Rachel Meyler, dau of John Meyler (St Peter COI parish records, Dublin) 6b Ulysses Henry Bagot, d unmarried (Burke) 6c William Bagot, d unmarried (Burke & will of his grandmother, Eliza Bagot) 6d Emilius Walker Bagot (Burke) 6e Eliza Ann Bagot m Rev John Ball of Delganny, Co Wicklow (Burke & will of her grandmother, Eliza Bagot) 5b Mary North (16.4.2) or Maria North, m Milo Bagot (16.4.2).